Think I have gone off on a tangent there. However reading all the comments again it could be relevant. i.e. Money worries, relationship breakup, death of a close one, off to the doctor, prescription, repeat prescriptions with no follow up, down and down , round and round, feeling suicidal so try something from a dealer for a pick up. I was once told by a doctor, suicides usually happen on the way up from rock bottom.

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Knowing first hand the results of anti-depressants/tranquilisers and the results of becoming addicted to them, it can be a very slippery slope downwards. Taken to aleviate the symptoms, unless very carefully monitored can make the situation worse, leading to thoughts of suicide. Hence, I will never understand people putting drugs into their bodies for a quick thrill when they can see the results that addiction can bring.

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I think it's a really important point that bravery is involved (when doing it alone) how bad must things be to actually do it, in any way. It's great that you can take that extra aspect BigCol, good comments Nibbles. Also so sad at what is left behind, the devastation must be huge BigCol. So so sad and so much unanswered I imagine. I read an interesting article about the link between antidepressants and suicide this week, some of the people had been sufferers of panic attacks and 'light' depression and are now suicidal. Depression is still so misunderstood. Feeling that down that there is no other way out.... To take others with you is murder plain and simple though, selfish murder.

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There has been a suicide within my immediate family within the last year and the devastation which has been left in its wake is indescribable. The person involved was prescribed as being clinically depressed, which basically means it's a sickness rather than just being something that just gets you down, and he did do it in the quietness of his own flat with an overdose. Hence the comparison with those who take other innocents with them is not really relevant. The reason for me mentioning this is that, until Nibbles's comment, I've never really thought of the courage aspect involved in his actions and I suppose, despite the despair, it must have taken an enormous amount of courage to do what he did. I'm still quietly angry at the despair he's left behind, but I think I might take a few moments to think of the bravery involved in doing what he did alone.

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just given this great post a nod,just worked out how to do it!

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There are times that we all have really down days and for some during the break up of a marriage or partnership who knows what overtakes ones emotions to turn into unusual behavioral actions. If you are going to be Brave,Cowardly,Selfish and take your own life it cannot warrant taking others with you, as this guy took his two children. I don't know the full extent of the story but WHATEVER the situation the other people involved still had their whole lives ahead of them, and now it has been made even worse by the father and son surviving and the daughter dying, the long term effects on that little boy will be harrowing. If you want to do it, do it, but don't take others with you, that is just playing God with people. There are so many stories like this now coming out in the media,so i think if they take people with them it's cowardly,Selfish and Stupid but not Brave, Brave would have been to go it alone.

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